The listener included in we, or left out
If a friend turns to you and says, 'We won a prize!', do they mean you and them together, or their team without you? English uses the single word 'we' for both situations, whereas languages like Indonesian distinguish these meanings explicitly: kita includes the person being spoken to, while kami leaves the listener out.
Questions you could explore
- How could changing the listener change the pronoun without changing the group’s size?
- How do languages with separate inclusive and exclusive forms of we make that distinction explicit?
Start reading
- WALS OnlineDatapoint Indonesian / Inclusive/Exclusive Distinction in Independent Pronouns
The WALS Indonesian entry labels kita as inclusive and kami as exclusive, citing a reference grammar.
- WALS OnlineInclusive/Exclusive Distinction in Independent Pronouns, chapter 39
The WALS chapter explains the broader inclusive/exclusive distinction across languages.
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